“A leader is anyone who holds him or herself accountable for finding potential in people or processes.” – Brené Brown
Years ago I was talking with a man who was a member of the last church my dad led. Were we talking about my dear father and the man quipped, “You can’t say ‘no’ to Dick Leon.”
I had a good laugh about the truth of that statement. My dad asked a lot of people to do a lot of things – serve on committees, volunteer, contribute to a capital campaign. And if you said, “no,” it wasn’t that my dad would judge you, get mad, try the silent treatment, or blackball you. It was worse.
He’d get to know you.
When I talked with him about his leadership style, my dad told me:
“One of the problems that I see with a lot of young pastors is that they’ve been attracted to the ministry because they have seen someone up front doing a nice job preaching or teaching and they love the presentation side.
I keep saying to them, ministry is in the details. It’s getting systems that work in terms of management of the church, people who want to get involved, you want to make sure that they have a meaningful task and that they are rewarded, listened to, and that they feel befriended.
One of the things that I would often teach is when you have an elder that is going to give themselves to leadership for three years, the question you should ask yourself is, ‘At the end of the three years, do these people love the Lord, love the church and love their sense of ministry more than when you met them?’ It’s not ‘How do I put up with them for three years?’ but ‘How can I help them grow as people during their three years?’
It changes the whole sense from how do I get my things done to how do I serve these people? How do I befriend them? How can I help them? How do we nurture them? With a committee or an elder or a deacon or an officer of the church, you’ve got a window into their life that you’ll never have again so how do you use that? How are you doing? What is going on in your life? How can I be of help?”
Yeah…very few people said “no” to Dick Leon. But it’s a hard example to put into action, especially in different industries or scenarios. When heading a volunteer team full of big personalities or working within a competitive company where everyone is super smart, how do you bring that same attitude of empowerment and sharing?
To answer that question, I recorded a How To Share podcast conversation with my friend and climbing buddy, Doug Hauger. Doug had a very successful career as a technology executive and leads personal and professional projects with a similar style to my father’s.
In this episode, Doug and I talk about the intricacies of leadership, emphasizing the importance of sharing, vulnerability, and empowerment. We explore how confidence plays a role in leadership, the necessity of embracing uncertainty, and the dynamics of team interactions, especially when faced with challenging personalities. Doug shares insights from his extensive experience in tech leadership, highlighting the value of wisdom and the importance of creating an environment where team members feel empowered to share and learn from failures. The conversation culminates in the realization that true leadership involves being open, vulnerable, and willing to adapt, ultimately leading to a more liberated and effective leadership style.
We also tell quite a few climbing stories which are very good analogies for leadership success and direction.
Takeaways
- Leadership requires confidence and the ability to embrace uncertainty.
- Being open to feedback is crucial for effective leadership.
- Vulnerability fosters trust and encourages team sharing.
- Successful leaders create an environment of two-way communication.
- Wisdom and experience are essential in guiding teams.
- Empowering others leads to a more productive team dynamic.
- Acknowledging failure is part of the learning process.
- Humility allows leaders to learn from others.
- Navigating team dynamics requires transparency and honesty.
- Lack of transparency can add weight that hinders success and leadership effectiveness.
This is a great episode that delves into the heart of sharing power and the power of sharing. I know you’ll love it!
Here’s a short clip from our episode to give you a taste of the great conversation with the always amazing Doug Hauger:
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Links for this episode:
Doug Hauger on LinkedIn
(featured photo is a picture of Doug and his daughter atop Mt. Adams – one of the climbs we talk about in this podcast)