“Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive.” – Howard Thurman
When my daughter was two-and-a-half, I installed a seat on the back of my bike. I strapped her in and we pedaled around our neighborhood. She yelled, “this is fantastic!”
A pure jolt of energy and vitality shot threw me. For me, it was such a good example of the fullness of life that surges when we embrace the freedom that comes with getting out on two wheels. As a bonus, it reminded me of how easy it is to get stuck in the humdrum of life. And the cure is just an adventure (big or small) away.
So in this episode of The Life of Try podcast, I talk with tech entrepreneur and author Michael Yang about his memoir Coming Alive on the Ride and the way motorcycle travel became both a literal journey and a powerful metaphor for personal growth. Michael shares how stepping outside your familiar environment can help you hear “life’s invitation” to dream, venture, and rediscover what makes you feel fully awake.
Together we explore resilience through the Korean concept of han—the accumulated weight of difficult circumstances—and how setbacks can become fuel for perseverance. Michael reflects on immigrating from Korea at 14, building a life through gratitude and hard work, and learning (again and again) that rejection doesn’t have to be the end of the story.
From riding thousands of miles with a lifelong friend to a memorable run-in with Steve Jobs at Macy’s in 1982, Michael’s stories remind us that courage grows through companionship and curiosity. We also discuss the Korean guiding philosophy of Hongik—living in a way that benefits all humankind—and how our bravest tries can ripple outward in ways we may not expect.
In this episode, we cover:
- Why “accepting the invitation” is simple—but the road rarely runs straight
- Han, perseverance, and turning setbacks into strength
- The immigrant mindset: gratitude, effort, and going for opportunity
- Friendship as a confidence builder—on the road and in life
- Curiosity, rejection, and holding onto a vision (plus the Steve Jobs story)
- Hongik: living for the wider benefit and making a positive dent in the world
Here’s a small taste of Michael’s brave and bold reminder that saying “yes” to adventure often brings out our best selves:
Whether you’re craving a literal road trip or a fresh start at home, this conversation will nudge you toward your next brave yes.
Here are some ways you can listen and watch this motivating episode:
- The podcast player embedded below
- Click this link to watch in a browser: How to Get Unstuck: Michael Yang on Saying Yes, Resilience, and Coming Alive
- Subscribe to The Life of Try on Spotify, Amazon Music, or Apple Podcasts
- Subscribing to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thelifeoftry
48-How to Get Unstuck: Michael Yang on Saying Yes, Resilience, and Coming Alive – The Life of Try: Personal growth, one try at a time.
- 48-How to Get Unstuck: Michael Yang on Saying Yes, Resilience, and Coming Alive
- 47-From Stuck to Momentum: Thomas Edison’s Method for Progress (Try, Learn, Improve, Repeat)
- 46: The Quiet Transformation That Changes Everything
- 45: The Life of Try: Alex Honnold Case Study
- How to Share a Reimagined Sci-Fi Trilogy with Dr. Wayne Runde
Links for this episode:
48-How to Get Unstuck: Michael Yang on Saying Yes, Resilience, and Coming Alive transcript
Coming Alive on the Ride at Barnes & Noble and Amazon
The Life of Try is a personal growth and self‑help podcast about getting unstuck, navigating uncertainty, and choosing to try—even when it’s uncomfortable, inconvenient, or not your idea.
Hosted by Wynne Leon, the show explores how real growth, reinvention, and discovery often begin not with confidence or clarity—but with a single attempt. Through thoughtful interviews, reflective conversations, and real‑world case studies, each episode examines what it looks like to keep going when doubt shows up, plans fall apart, or life forces a change you didn’t ask for.
This podcast is for anyone who:
- Feels stuck or uncertain about what’s next
- Is navigating change, burnout, or reinvention
- Wants to live more intentionally without pretending growth is easy
- Believes progress starts by trying—again and again
The Life of Try isn’t about hustle or perfection. It’s about learning as you go, surfacing what matters, and sharing what you discover along the way.
If you’re ready to surf the uncertainty, outlast the doubts, and step into your own try‑cycle, you’re in the right place.
(featured photo from Michael Yang — more incredible photos in his book and on his website!)
You do such a good job of writing these intros with a personal story- it helps make them seem more appealing and relevant. 😎
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Thank you, Todd! I thought about you with this one because of your love for road trips. Michael makes a good case for that adventure being so good for bringing us alive!!
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Thanks Wynne! I am looking forward to listening to this episode. It’s true – those road trips really do bring out a sense of excitement and vitality.
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Mr. Yang seems like a man not easily defeated. Might there be an application of this idea that is larger than personal achievement in today’s USA? Thanks, Wynne.
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Right — like making sure this country remains the land of opportunity! Thanks, Dr. Stein!
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Thank you for this Wynne.
I was thinking about the word “stuck ” today.
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Ah, some great synergy then! Thanks, Maggie!
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That Howard Thurman quote is my all-time favorite. So good! This this line: “courage grows through companionship and curiosity”. How powerful! Looking forward to listening.
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One of my favorites too! Thank you, Erin!
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What a perfect guest for your podcast, Wynne! I love Michael’s thoughts about remembering to buddy up and try with a trusted friend — to build confidence. The best sort of training wheels! Then we can push off and go, go, go…remembering those who road with us. I know I’ve had the experience so many times – some with you, dear one – and the boost I’ve received? Feeling more assured? Willing to try, try, try! Delightful conversation in every way. 💝💝💝
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Oh! Teehee! Those who “road” — err rode — with us! 🤪❤️🤪
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I couldn’t agree more. You did that for me with podcasting, writing and blogging. I’m forever grateful! Thank you, my dear friend!! ❤ ❤ ❤
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Mutual love! Xo! 😘❤️😘
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This was a great interview Wynne. Michael’s story is very engaging and his values inspire. I like the concepts of han and hongik. Unfortunately, I let the burdens of life’s challenges wear me out instead of learning from them. And I didn’t have a big enough vision, goal, or purpose to drive me either. Kudos to you and Michael for exemplifying perseverance.
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Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Brad. I love Michael’s ability to take up these motorcycle adventures in his 60’s. I guess we’re never too old to take on a new adventure! And from what I know, you’ve done some pretty wonderful road trips! Thanks for tuning in – I appreciate you!
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Thanks Wynne, and yes, but it’s been about 20 years since I’ve had any real adventures.
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That just means you have a deep base for more, Brad!! 🙂
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Like Michael’s story. Love the part about challenging yourself. Ugh … I guess I need to put myself out there and take the next step. Ugh. Ha ha. Love how you’ve tweaked your positioning too of the podcast Wynne. Such a deep and interesting topic!
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Love this comment because it honors that we have to keep doing it again and again. Dang, it’s hard! Thank you for your feedback about the topic. Deep and interesting — I hope so!! Thank you, my friend!
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Yes, it’s hard! Waaaaahh! Ha, ha, but it really does push us to new adventures and joy in our life. I keep reminding myself of that. Thanks Wynne.
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I’ve listened to the snippet and can’t wait to dive in and listen to the entire podcast. Trying something new can be so rewarding as I learned by swimming, diving off the blocks and entering a few competitions. Also, moving to a new state, meeting new people, and picking up photography.
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Yes – you are so good at new adventures! I love the way you share what you learn so we get to adventure alongside you! Thanks, Elizabeth!
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Thanks! I feel like I’m not as adventurous anymore. Aging and foot and ankle surgeries will do that.
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what a great philosophy and approach – it can be big or little, but keep trying, step out of your comfort zone, it’s where you grow. I love how he said, as long as it doesn’t kill you –
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I’m smiling because I liked that too. Yes, it’s where we grow! Thanks, Beth!
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