Creating Without Elbow Grease

Do the difficult things when they are easy and do the great things when they are small. A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step.” – Lao Tzu

What if “trying” doesn’t have to mean pushing harder?

I’ve been in a flow state often enough to know it exists but not so often to know how to reliably get there. Is it really possible to regularly create — to write, to connect with others, to co-author life in a way that doesn’t leave me sweaty and tired? My guest on this week’s podcast had some insight about finding flow. Even if it falls into the category of easier said than done, it’s the quietness of the approach that makes me think it’s possible

In this Life of Try episode, I talk with author and New York Insight Meditation Center co-founder Joseph Schmidt about The Torchbearer—a collection of short stories born from an unexpectedly effortless creative process. Together we explore the mindset shift from effort to openness: how letting go of the agenda can create space for insight, transformation, and a deeper, more alive way of meeting each moment.

  • Try smarter, not harder: why forcing outcomes can block creativity—and what changes when you partner with the process instead.
  • Mindset shift to “empty hands”: Joseph’s Zen chaplaincy training and the practice of entering a room (or a moment) without an agenda.
  • Personal growth through discovery: how his characters—and we as readers—find the next move by noticing what’s already here.
  • Feeling alive at the edge of the unknown: mindfulness as the place where consciousness meets what happens next.
  • Belonging as a practice: building a bond of belonging by showing up with curiosity, care, and presence.

If you’ve been working hard but feeling flat, this conversation is an invitation to loosen your grip, step back into the present, and discover a more natural flow—one where growth comes from attention, not strain. Listen in for a gentler (and often more powerful) way to create, connect, and keep beginning again.

Here’s great clip of Joseph describing the lesson he learned from a Zen monk about a powerful mindset shift:

This is a great episode if you’re craving a mindset reset, rebuilding your creative confidence, deepening a mindfulness practice, or simply want to feel more awake and engaged in your everyday life.

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When should we celebrate progress—only at the finish line, or all along the way?In this episode of The Life of Try, Wynne Leon explores the power of small wins, tiny habits, and incremental progress. Drawing from a personal story about preparing her home for an Airbnb experiment during the World Cup in Seattle, Wynne reflects on what it means to keep going when growth is messy, nonlinear, and full of setbacks.Along the way, she connects insights from BJ Fogg, creator of Tiny Habits and director of Stanford’s Behavior Design Lab, with the long-term philosophy of Toyota’s Kaizen culture, where small daily improvements add up over time, and the practical courage found in the checklist mindset associated with Captain Sullenberger. This episode is about personal growth, habit formation, celebrating small victories, and learning to recognize that progress doesn’t have to be dramatic to matter.In this episode, we discuss: → Why celebrating small wins can help you stay motivated even when progress feels slow or messy → How BJ Fogg’s Tiny Habits approach shows that tiny celebrations can reinforce lasting behavior change → What Toyota’s Kaizen philosophy teaches about the long-term power of small, consistent improvements → How checklists and small-step courage can help you keep going when you feel overwhelmed or stuck → Why growth often looks nonlinear, and how to recognize progress before the final result arrives → How honoring effort along the way can help you build resilience, confidence, and momentum If you’ve ever felt stuck, overlooked your own progress, or wondered whether the little steps count, this conversation will remind you that they do. Small wins matter. Tiny steps matter. And trying counts, even before the big outcome arrives.🌍 Show notes and more inspiration: https://wynneleon.com🔔 Subscribe for more: Subscribe to The Life of Try for more conversations on: personal growth, creativity, reinvention, resilience, writing, and mindset.ABOUT ME: Hi, I’m Wynne Leon — host of The Life of Try, a personal growth and self-improvement podcast exploring resilience, reinvention, uncertainty, and the courage to keep trying. Through thoughtful interviews, reflective conversations, and real-life stories, I share insights to help you navigate change, get unstuck, and move forward with more intention.🌍 Website: https://wynneleon.com━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🎥 Watch Next➡️ Letting Go Of Outcomes: The Mindset That Keeps You Moving➡️ 48: How to Get Unstuck: Michael Yang on Saying Yes, Resilience and Coming Alive➡️ How to Reclaim Fun in Adult Life | Mike Rucker, PhD, on Joy, Burnout and the Fun Habit🔗 CONNECT WITH ME:• Website:→ https://wynneleon.com/• Instagram:→ https://www.instagram.com/wynneleon/• Facebook:→ https://www.facebook.com/wynne.leon/
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  2. How to Reclaim Fun in Adult Life; Michael Rucker, PhD on Joy, Burnout, and The Fun Habit
  3. Reinvention, Resilience and The Courage to Try| Lindsey Goldstein on Gap Year
  4. 51: Letting Go of Outcomes: The Mindset That Keeps You Moving
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Links for this episode:

The Transformation That Changes Everything transcript

The Torchbearer: and other Stories of Borderline Redemption by Joseph Schmidt on Amazon

Joseph Schmidt bio – New York Insight Meditation Center

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50 thoughts on “Creating Without Elbow Grease

  1. An interesting clip, Wynne. It sounds like some version of acceptance of the other, seeing the other, and allowing the energy that is thus created to move the outcome in a way that is satisfying. Thanks for this.

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      1. Yes, Wynne. One of the first things I needed to realize was that if I was working harder than a patient was, we were both in trouble!

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  2. It’s incredible the difference in how it feels to work frantically versus with calm intention. Thanks for the great reminder, Wynne!

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  3. A few years ago I learned to just trust my hands. I saw that they knew what they were doing, even if they hadn’t told my mind yet. Often I’d get an urge to sit down to write or to create art or pottery, and just allowed my hands to be busy and do their thing. Once it was revealed to me what was bring created, I could then get involved more intentionally with it, but I learned to always give the piece the right to lead me, and not the other way around.

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      1. I’ve seen that happen with many people. Overworking something is also a problem of not trusting the outcome. The middle part of a project can look like a hot mess and that’s when people often get discouraged and give up, then feel like a failure.

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  4. What a beautiful conversation, Wynne. “Give everything we have to those that we meet” is a wonderful thought to start the book and to end your chat.

    As I get older, I discover that we’re in a constant state of becoming – and that movement from known into unknown can feel so scary when you’re right at edge. But being mindless of the universe’s signals and intentions – and having that conviction and curiosity to make the leap can be so powerful and rewarding.

    So interesting to think of the universe as a living thing that also seeks recognition from us tiny beings that exist within it. And how we are all seeking to belong and to forge those bonds of belonging.

    It’s been a long day and this was a lovely way to unwind and to be present in the moment.

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  5. I found this phrase, from Joseph in the interview, really worth pondering. “I have this, idea that the universe wants to be recognized.” This makes sense for anyone that feels a spiritual connection to something bigger than themselves. The universe has been around longer than any of us humans, it knows things that we couldn’t possibly imagine. All we have to do is listen…

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    1. Thank you, Edward. I realized after the fact that Joseph did the same thing with our conversation as he describes in the clip. He came in without an agenda and it made for a great dialogue. I appreciate you listening. Wishing you a wonderful Easter weekend!

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  6. This really speaks to me right now! I’ve been trying to force my kitchen renovation to go faster, but it’s just making me stressed. Your post is a great reminder to let go and trust the process. I’m going to try and bring this “empty hands” mindset to waiting for my cabinet refacers to finish their work. Maybe the kitchen will feel done when it’s ready, not when I’m trying to will it into existence. Thanks for the perspective shift

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    1. What a great example, Jeanie! I can imagine that it’s tempting to want to push that along. I hope they finish – and that you are able to trust the process. Love your comment about the kitchen feeling done with it’s ready. So good!

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  7. Oh my, how interesting. I feel as if the flow of my life keeps changing as I age. There was an adjustment after marriage, the first child was born, going back to work after 20 years, and now after retirement, we had to recreate our flow and believe me it’s been a tad rocky in my opinion. This is a really important topic and vital at every stage of life. Hugs, C

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