“Do the difficult things when they are easy and do the great things when they are small. A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step.” – Lao Tzu
What if “trying” doesn’t have to mean pushing harder?
I’ve been in a flow state often enough to know it exists but not so often to know how to reliably get there. Is it really possible to regularly create — to write, to connect with others, to co-author life in a way that doesn’t leave me sweaty and tired? My guest on this week’s podcast had some insight about finding flow. Even if it falls into the category of easier said than done, it’s the quietness of the approach that makes me think it’s possible
In this Life of Try episode, I talk with author and New York Insight Meditation Center co-founder Joseph Schmidt about The Torchbearer—a collection of short stories born from an unexpectedly effortless creative process. Together we explore the mindset shift from effort to openness: how letting go of the agenda can create space for insight, transformation, and a deeper, more alive way of meeting each moment.
- Try smarter, not harder: why forcing outcomes can block creativity—and what changes when you partner with the process instead.
- Mindset shift to “empty hands”: Joseph’s Zen chaplaincy training and the practice of entering a room (or a moment) without an agenda.
- Personal growth through discovery: how his characters—and we as readers—find the next move by noticing what’s already here.
- Feeling alive at the edge of the unknown: mindfulness as the place where consciousness meets what happens next.
- Belonging as a practice: building a bond of belonging by showing up with curiosity, care, and presence.
If you’ve been working hard but feeling flat, this conversation is an invitation to loosen your grip, step back into the present, and discover a more natural flow—one where growth comes from attention, not strain. Listen in for a gentler (and often more powerful) way to create, connect, and keep beginning again.
Here’s great clip of Joseph describing the lesson he learned from a Zen monk about a powerful mindset shift:
This is a great episode if you’re craving a mindset reset, rebuilding your creative confidence, deepening a mindfulness practice, or simply want to feel more awake and engaged in your everyday life.
Here are some ways you can listen and watch this inspiring episode:
- The podcast player embedded below
- Click this link to watch in a browser: The Quiet Transformation That Changes Everything
- Subscribe to The Life of Try on Spotify, Amazon Music, or Apple Podcasts
- Subscribing to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thelifeoftry
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46: The Quiet Transformation That Changes Everything – The Life of Try: Personal growth, one try at a time.
Links for this episode:
The Transformation That Changes Everything transcript
The Torchbearer: and other Stories of Borderline Redemption by Joseph Schmidt on Amazon
Joseph Schmidt bio – New York Insight Meditation Center
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An interesting clip, Wynne. It sounds like some version of acceptance of the other, seeing the other, and allowing the energy that is thus created to move the outcome in a way that is satisfying. Thanks for this.
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I love your take on it, Dr. Stein. I imagine that you had to cultivate some of the same openness when you saw patients?
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Yes, Wynne. One of the first things I needed to realize was that if I was working harder than a patient was, we were both in trouble!
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I can see why that would be the case!
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Moving from the known to the unknown and co-creating…oh my! Thank you, Wynne. A great conversation to embrace as I start my day! ❤️😊❤️
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Thank you, dear Vicki. I love your summary – oh my, indeed. Such a subtle but interesting shift!
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Xo! 😘
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Needed Wynne.
Rhank you 🙏
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Thank you, Maggie!
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*excuse my typo 🤭
The brain is fried 🙃lol!
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Ha, ha – please never apologize for a typo. I completely understand and totally got it!
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I am a big fan of try smarter not harder. Good take aways Wynne!
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It’s such a better way to move, isn’t it? Thanks, Cristiana!
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It’s incredible the difference in how it feels to work frantically versus with calm intention. Thanks for the great reminder, Wynne!
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Calm intention — perfect way to put it. Thanks, Erin!
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A mindset reset! Thank you Wynne. Just what the doctor ordered!
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I know that’s true for me! Thanks, Brian!
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some great advice —
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Thanks, John!
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A few years ago I learned to just trust my hands. I saw that they knew what they were doing, even if they hadn’t told my mind yet. Often I’d get an urge to sit down to write or to create art or pottery, and just allowed my hands to be busy and do their thing. Once it was revealed to me what was bring created, I could then get involved more intentionally with it, but I learned to always give the piece the right to lead me, and not the other way around.
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To trust your hands — what a beautiful practice and way to put it. How often I’ve ruined things because I haven’t been willing to be led. Thank you, Tamara!
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I’ve seen that happen with many people. Overworking something is also a problem of not trusting the outcome. The middle part of a project can look like a hot mess and that’s when people often get discouraged and give up, then feel like a failure.
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What a beautiful conversation, Wynne. “Give everything we have to those that we meet” is a wonderful thought to start the book and to end your chat.
As I get older, I discover that we’re in a constant state of becoming – and that movement from known into unknown can feel so scary when you’re right at edge. But being mindless of the universe’s signals and intentions – and having that conviction and curiosity to make the leap can be so powerful and rewarding.
So interesting to think of the universe as a living thing that also seeks recognition from us tiny beings that exist within it. And how we are all seeking to belong and to forge those bonds of belonging.
It’s been a long day and this was a lovely way to unwind and to be present in the moment.
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Oh my goodness – you are amazing for all that you pick up. Thanks for tuning in and for this comment about what landed! I hope your evening is restful!!
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* being mindful not mindless. 😂 I told you it’s been a long day!
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🙂 ❤ Totally understand!
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Calm is a worthy goal as well as working smarter.
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This is an engaging topic to discuss, Wynne. Brimmed with lessons.
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This sounds fascinating and so useful.
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This is a so good podcast – deep curiously builds a future of belonging!
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I love that opening quote and I’ve been enjoying the new podcast angle😎👍🙏💚
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I found this phrase, from Joseph in the interview, really worth pondering. “I have this, idea that the universe wants to be recognized.” This makes sense for anyone that feels a spiritual connection to something bigger than themselves. The universe has been around longer than any of us humans, it knows things that we couldn’t possibly imagine. All we have to do is listen…
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