“If you want to be truly understood, you need to say everything three times, in three different ways. Once for each ear…and once for the heart.” – Paula Underwood Spencer
Eight years ago at a birthday party for a friend, I met a remarkable woman. It was a milestone birthday which is why I can pinpoint it that precisely.
This woman stood out not because of what she did (a therapist I later learned) or what we talked about (stand up paddle boarding in Puget Sound) but because she listened like a lake. That was the image that came to me when talking with her. She absorbed the conversation instead of volleying back and forth like tennis. Also it seemed like her words came from her depth.
It reminds me of a phrase I heard in a eulogy almost three years ago. We were honoring a man who was the father of a childhood friend. His grandson said about him, “He loved by listening.”
Two examples that stand out in the last ten years because they were great listeners. I often make the mistake of thinking I need to say something to be remembered – but these examples remind me that just learning how to listen well is remarkable in itself.
Fortunately, I was able to have a great conversation with my dear friend, Dr. Vicki Atkinson about how to receive for the How to Share podcast. In this episode, Vicki discusses the essential skills of listening and receiving in conversations. She emphasizes the importance of reflective listening techniques, being present, and using the SLANT method to enhance communication.
Our conversation explores how to navigate conversations with empathy, the role of affirmation, and the significance of maintaining boundaries while supporting others. Vicki also highlights the growth opportunities that arise from effective listening and the need for authenticity in communication.
Here are some key takeaways:
- Everyone can learn how to be a better listener (as Vicki says, the runway is wide!)
- Reflective listening helps slow things down and enhances understanding.
- Tonality is crucial in reflective listening to ensure the speaker feels heard.
- Active listening involves being present and engaged in the conversation.
- The SLANT method is a practical approach to effective listening.
- Asking clarifying questions shows genuine interest in the speaker’s message.
- Affirmation and encouragement are key components of effective listening.
- Setting boundaries is important to avoid taking on others’ burdens.
- Listening well can mitigate stress and prevent larger issues.
- Authenticity in communication fosters trust and connection.
And a short clip from the episode to whet your appetite:
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How to Receive with Dr. Vicki Atkinson transcript
Links for this episode:
Dr. Vicki Atkinson at the Atkinson Group Solutions; Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/
A is for Ambivalence by Vicki Atkinson
(Featured photo stems from Vicki’s comment about the Chinese ideogram for undivided attention in this episode. It’s sourced from undivided attention from Pinterest by Nancy Sherr)
Listening is so important. Sometimes there is occasion that a person needs just to be silent and empathize or sympathize a loved ones.
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Oh, so well said, Hazel! Your big heart shines through in this comment and I’m sure also when you listen!
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Thank you so much, Wynne. I accept the gift! Stay blessed.
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Wow well said. Listening is a great skill. I am all ears is not something that is said casually.
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Perfectly said, Ganga. Love your comment that “I am all ears is not something that is said casually.” Right!
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I’m reminded we have two ears and one mouth, and according to the woman I love, my golden ratio for staying out of trouble.
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What a great comment, Grant! I think your lovely wife has a great point for us all!
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Thanks, Wynne. All true!
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Exactly! I volunteered in work as a Staff Support Advisor. Not to offer therapeutic support, but as a signposting service.
Our training shows us just what you were explaining- listen & be in the moment and repeat back what they have said. ‘ this is what I’ve understood you to say’. It’s amazing how that helps people to feel truly listened to!
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I love this comment about your service, Pat. You are so right – amazing how it helps people to feel heard! Thank you!
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It was with a mental health Trust, so you would expect them to get this right.
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Thanks again Wynne – and Vicki – for accompanying me on my morning commute, this time a more relaxed transit ride, to work.
Active listening is such an important skill – and as I learned over the years, there is a difference between hearing and listening. Something we can all hone, myself included, in our personal and professional relationships.
I appreciated learning more about the SLANT approach and agree with you both that so much can be mitigated through making the time – and there always is time – to listen to those bids for attention, whether they are coming from our children, peers or direct reports at work.
Kudos and thanks again for another lovely insightful conversation!
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I love knowing we were with you on your way to work, Ab. You said it so well – something we can all hone in all of our relationships! And your comment about making the time is so right on! Thanks for tuning in, my friend!
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“She listened like a lake.”
That one is gonna stick with me.
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I’ve never seen that woman again and it stuck with me too!
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Good listening is a great skill and gift to others. Thanks for the tips on brushing up!
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You said it perfectly, Brad — a great skill and gift to others. Yes!
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Ironically, I learned many of my active listening skills from a job I worked in college. I was a telephone survey taker. We were taught to ask clarifying questions (in what way? for example), which is a technique I still use today.
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Oh, those are such good clarifying questions, Rebecca. I’m taking notes to add them to my repertoire. Thank you!
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Great episode! Do high schools and colleges teach this stuff? I think they should.😎
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Wow – what a great question, Todd! Coursework we need. I bet Vicki taught it!
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!!!😉😉😉!!!
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Love your new platform, Wynne! I’m grateful for the time with you – discussing one of my all-time favorite topics. Big hugs! 🥰
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Love, love, love all your wisdom, dear Vicki! Thank you so much for sharing it on this podcast and all the other ways you do it! So grateful for you! ❤ ❤ ❤
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So much to learn and so much to slow down and practice. Thank you, Wynne and Vicki!
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Slow down and practice – so well said, Dana! Thank you!
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Listening is a skill not many master.
As well as doing so without judgement, great post Wynne!
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Without judgment — such a good point, Maggie! Great to see you after your holiday!
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Thank you Wynne !
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Oh my goodness. “He loved by listening.” What a wise grandson. That was my MIL. Exactly. Thanks, Wynne.
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How lucky to have a mother-in-law like that! Good point – he was a wise grandson!
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I love your analogy of the woman who “listened like a lake.” The stillness, depth, reception. People like that are treasures by being authentically curious about other people 🌞
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Oh you nailed it, Dave – authentically curious! Right! Thanks for the great comment!
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I love this: “she listened like a lake.” Plus your explanation that her words came from her depth. Wonderful!
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Thank you, Elizabeth! I only saw that woman once but she left a lasting impression!
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Love the idea of reflective listening, Wynne, and look forward to learning about the SLANT approach. I’ve put a note on the bathroom mirror so I’ll remember to come back here and LISTEN to your podcast! 😁
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I love your note about listening, Nancy! Thank you so much for tuning in!
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There was so much interesting material to unpack here, Wynne and Vicki. 😊 Own the disconnect as a show of respect, be the listener to affirm what the person already thinks they are going to do and counter being pulled in as a fixer with comments like “What ideas do you have?” or “I’ll be here.” If anybody truly wants to be a better listener, they should really listen to this episode!
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Wow, you clearly are a good listener, Melanie! You pulled out some great gems from Vicki. Thank you so much for tuning in and reflecting back — it’s so helpful to hear!!
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Germs from you too, Wynne! The part about your dad listening and affirming – love that. 😊
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Where do I start? Love, love how you described listening. Your use of the phrase “absorbed the conversation” . . . great writing but also describes what you’re talking about sharing and taking in. Slant, authenticity. And then Vicki and you . . . my two wise mentors!!!! Love this.
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Ah, thank you so much for the heart-warming comment, Brian! You are so good at reflecting back goodness!
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You guys are great together. Love the podcast Wynne. I feel that I’m already “absorbing” better and more open to sharing. Thx.
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Thank you, Brian! You are such a great encourager!
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you two are such wise mentors and the examples you gave are so spot on. listening is a skill I continue to work on, and I know I can do better with it over time and with more practice. I know that it is truly an incredible gift.
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I love that Vicki said that the runway for listening is long and we all can get better. I think that’s so true! Thanks to you for listening — so helpful to have your feedback!!
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ps. I realize that I am a notorious topper offer and will continue to work on this )
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It’s tricky slope, isn’t it? On one hand, we affirm what’s being said but then it’s hard when we start topping off… 🙂 Such a good phrase though!
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Such a valuable skill in business and in our personal lives. Miscommunication happens quite often because of a lack of listening. Sometimes we think we hear the words, but if we’re not focuisng on the speaker’s intent, much can get lost in translation.
I imagine that being a good listener is a hallmark of an excellent therapist. The fact that you noticed how well that woman was listening says a lot about her because it’s not normally the type of thing we pay attention to.
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I love your comment about understanding the speaker’s intent. It’s so right on! Thanks, Pete!
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This was beautiful and so needed in today’s noisy world. “Listening like a lake” — what a powerful image! Dr. Vicki’s insights are truly grounding. Thank you for reminding us that deep listening is its own kind of love.
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Deep listening is its own kind of love – well said. Thanks, Diya!
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Thanks, Wynne! This conversation is so needed and it’s timely. I’m looking forward to becoming a better listener. Can’t wait to watch! Have a beautiful day!🌸💕
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Thank you for putting it on your watch list, Shaun. Love that you say its needed and timely! Thank you!
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You’re welcome!💗
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Vicki is the perfect example of being a good listener who serves as a model for those who have contact with her. We never have enough people like her. Thanks, Wynne.
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Agreed, Dr. Stein. She’s a treasure!
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Good listeners are rare people as most of us want to talk to be listened but are not ready to listen to the interlocutor. I wishes I knew that woman who listened like a lake. Beautiful metaphor Wynne!
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Oh, I love how you brought this full circle, Cristiana! We want to be listened to but not do the listening. Oh my goodness – so true!
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The lake analogy is lovely! I’ve always been described as a great listener, but also just kind of assumed that’s a common trait of introverts: we’d rather absorb the conversation than lead it.
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Oh, that’s a great compliment. And interesting to think about the connection to introversion. I think it’s also a sign that you are happy!
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I love this phrase “it seemed like her words came from her depth.” It seems that many conversations are a practiced race against time, so we can hurry up and get to the next thing on our list. Thank you Wynne and Vicki for teaching us how to be good listeners, so we can have more authentic conversations.
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Oh, Rose – I love your description of conversations as races against time. That’s so good! Right! Thank you!
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two great analogies, Wynne: ‘she listened like a lake’ and not volleying a conversation back and forth like in tennis. I’ve bookmarked this post!
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Ah, thank you, John!
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“Just learning how to listen well is remarkable in itself.” This sentence sums up your post for me. To truly learn to listen is a beautiful art that we should all strive to achieve in all forms.
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Thank you, MSW. I love how you put it – “To truly learn to listen is a beautiful art that we should all strive to achieve in all forms. ” Right!
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“listened like a lake” What a wonderful phrase and way of being. Thank you for sharing. Keeping this tab to listen over the weekend. 🙏🏻
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Oh, I love how you summed it up, “What a wonderful phrase and way of being.” Right! Thanks, Michele!
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Thank you, Wynne. Love your shares. ✨
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This is such a great post and reminder of how listening is truly a gift, Wynne. Thank you for shedding more light, and I loved the clip too. Vicki is a big help with her knowledge as well. I’m always eager to jump into a conversation, so I have to remind myself of the timing. 🙂 I also loved these lines in the beginning: “…because she listened like a lake. That was the image that came to me when talking with her. She absorbed the conversation instead of volleying back and forth like tennis. Also it seemed like her words came from her depth.” 💞
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Oh, what a lovely comment. Thank you, Lauren! I love that you mentioned the timing — it’s so important, isn’t it? Thanks for tuning in!
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A thought-provoking post, Wynne. I think that reflective listening is an art that can be honed and a gift some people are born with. I enjoyed and learnt a lot from the podcast. Thank you.
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Oh, I love that you describe listening as an art that can be honed because that gives us such a beautiful target to aim for. Thank you so much for listening, Chaya!
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Thank you, my dear friend for your thought-provoking posts.
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My maternal grandmother was an avid listener. At parties she’d get people talking, and without her saying much about herself, the other person would come away commenting, “What a fascinating woman!”
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I love that, Rebecca! What a great example of the power of listening! 🙂 ❤ And I love your description of her, “avid listener.” Beautiful!
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Thanks, Wynne. I was lucky to know her and learn from her by example.
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